UPDATED: Charlie Hunnam Has Strong Thoughts On ‘Sons Of Anarchy’ And ‘The Ledge’

Thursday, February 10 by

UPDATE: Check out the entire audio HERE.

UPDATE: For all of you who don’t believe that Hunnam said what he said about”Sons of Anarchy” in the interview below, I’ve posted a sound file at the very bottom of the page. And yes, it’s really Hunnam, who in real life is British, talking. It’s not one of my editors putting on his best accent.

Another major Sundance distribution deal was for The Ledge, a thriller starring “Sons of Anarchy” star Charlie Hunnam, Liv Tyler, Patrick Wilson and Terrence Howard. Hunnam plays Gavin, a man prepared to jump from a ledge, recounting to a detective (Howard) the events that led him up there. It turns out his neighbor Joe (Wilson) didn’t approve of Gavin’s tolerance of gays and affections for his wife Shana (Tyler).

Before IFC Films made their deal for The Ledge, I got to talk with Hunnam at the Sundance Film Festival. Sundance interviews tend to be brief, as talent races from place to place just like I cram four movies into a day. We still had time to discuss the deep themes of the film and get a scoop on “Sons.”

Q: You kept Jax’s hair for The Ledge?

CH: Yes, unfortunately that was one of the really big compromises that we had to make. I wasn’t able to cut my hair because of the continuation of story in “Sons of Anarchy” from season 2 to season 3 which is when we shot this. I had to keep the hair and I also had to keep a little bit of facial hair which we discussed at great length. It was a huge compromise and we were both a little disappointed that that was the case but it was one of those unavoidable things. There are certain realities to being on a TV show and most of them are positive. Some of them are a little negative.

Q: It wasn’t criticism, I just recognized the look.

CH: Yeah, you know, we were able to rationalize it in that he’s a little anti-establishment, Gavin, so maybe it was a reaction against the kind of vanilla cookie-cutter aesthetic that was desired from the hotel [where Gavin worked.] Him keeping a bit of the facial hair and the long hair was a little f*ck you to the man.

Q: How does it feel that there are at least two films with a homophobic villain?

CH: A homophobic villain?

Q: Red State also has a fundamentalist preacher killing gay people.

CH: I never thought Patrick’s character to be homophobic. I took him to be misguided and fundamental in his believes. Obviously, some of those were to do with homosexuality but he was much more fundamentalist Christian than an active bigot in his own right. I never really took that away from him which is why I was so shocked when you asked the question. I guess there are a couple scenes that deal with his views towards homosexuality but I never thought that was a tenet, pillar of his personality or a theme of the film. I may be wrong.

Q: Should we confront people like Joe?

CH: I think particularly for instance in politics, I don’t think faith should play a part in politics, in modern politics the way it does. I think there are a lot of outdated ideas that go with man’s interpretation of God’s will, of those amongst the believers that can be very, very dangerous in today’s society. I think that religion absolutely has its place and I very much live and let live. I do have a confused but real belief in some kind of energy, be it the universe or God or whatever. I don’t at all subscribe to any scripture or organized religion because to me, all religion, if there is a God, everybody is worshiping the same God and it’s just man’s different interpretation of God. So for that to cause animosity or wars or anything like that is really just kind of a terrible, terrible catastrophe, a concept that I think is very outdated, very, very dangerous.

Q: But even when it’s not a situation as tense as The Ledge, it seems like guys like Joe are dangerous. Is there a less dangerous way to confront them?

CH: Yeah, I mean any kind of fanatic is probably very, very dangerous to pick holes in somebody’s fanaticism. That’s why fanaticism is dangerous.

Q: Where does Jax need to go in Season Four?

CH: I think that he needs to assert himself and needs to control his psychotic mother who has no place trying to run a motorcycle club. If I was in charge of the writing, I would really, really pull back on that because that’s just a device that doesn’t ever ring true to me. So it’s very frustrating to me sometimes to be put in a position as an actor to have to play out scenes where I don’t believe the dynamic and I don’t believe that Jax would ever be taking orders from his mother, you know. So I hope that that is something that can be remedied a little bit.

Q: Will there be a bigger jump in time between seasons three and four?

CH: Yeah, because I don’t think that the show can sustain us being in prison and obviously we got to prison and it’s been well established that we’re going for two years. So probably be out in 18 months and so I don’t think we can sustain 18 months worth of prison storylines. So I think they’ll probably pick us up as we get released from prison would be my guess.

Click To Hear Charlie Hunnam Speak


  1. February 10, 2011 9:51 am

    Debra Texeira

    I Think you’ve taken Charlies interview and twisted it up a bit. I don’t think that he thinks the writing for his character needs to be improved. He might have his opinions and input regarding his character, but all in all I believe he’s very happy with his character’s arc so far.

  2. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    Yeah, I think Debra has a point….
    It sounded very strange…

  3. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    I’ve read many interviews with Charlie Hunnam and seen many interviews with him and never once, ever, has he said ANYTHING even remotely criticital of the show (SOA) or the writing or storyline or the direction or anything. I find it a bit difficult to believe that he made those comments exactly that way. Who knows, though – maybe he was grumpy, tired of being asked the same questions over & over again. I know I would get sick of it! Didn’t feel like his voice though.

  4. February 10, 2011 9:51 am

    Amanda Babs

    I totally agree! Charlie never says things like this about Sons! He is always happy to see where the writers take his character and his relationships, especially w/ his mom!! Something has been changed since the actual interview took place! He never bashes Kurt and his team!!! EVER! I agree w/ the previous comments!

  5. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    no fucking way charl would say that about the writes,hes loves the show and even if he did feel that way he wouldnt say it……stupid to say and who ever made this article is a punk

  6. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    I wonder what the comments will be now that there’s an audio clip

  7. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    He obviously said it. And a bit more if you listen to the clip. I was pretty disappointed to hear him speak that way but we are all human and he could have just been in a bad mood and said that. We all regret saying things at times. Its just unfortunate. I bet he wishes he never said that now.

  8. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    Did they make up the audio too, moron?

  9. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    Gemma is a bit nuts let be real. 1st season the skateboard then She stabbed a guy in the nuts last season and killed a chick. She is psychotic. But fr him to point out what he has a problem with with the show during a recorded interview is like a slap in the face I would think to the writers.

  10. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    Kurt Sutter seems to have an opinion on this piece.


  11. February 10, 2011 9:51 am

    Rachel Ross

    I listened to your sound bite & you have definately rearranged the words he was saying to be a little more confrontational for your own benefit. Which is obviously your own twisted way of gathering publicity. I have to say I rather enjoyed the choice words Kurt Sutter had for you. LOL

  12. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    Listen to the audio. Charlie said it.

  13. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    The only good way to know whether the story was twisted would be to hear the whole interview. Frankly, I do think the interviewer was being antagonistic, just from the written part – Charlie didn’t seem to agree with how he asked questions – certainly the interviewer was phrasing his questions (the homophobic part) in a way that seemed antagonistic. We don’t know what questions specifically came before this. It’s a tough call, though, since Charlie sounded fairly calm.

  14. February 10, 2011 9:51 am

    Patrick Grisham

    Someone actually pays you to write this tripe? Hey Screen Junkies, I can make up better crap than this all day long. Can I have a job? Fred, whats your beef with Kurt, and I do mean your beef. At least Kurt is coming out and saying what he means, rather then twisting words and hiding behind a BS story.

    Nice piece of fiction.

  15. February 10, 2011 9:51 am

    Patrick Grisham

    Do you seriously trust anything a guy writes once he pulls that kind of crap???

  16. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    Load the file in a audio analyzer, it is one continual answer (pay attention to the back ground noise)

  17. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    Seems to me that he did say it….some what…i think the interviewer wrote the article in a different “tone” than it was said…charlie was just giving he’s a opinion as a writer….i believe opinion is not critizism….plainly put ..this sh*te was written to get some panties in a bunch…i believe kurt’s noun for you on his blog was perfect…just like he’s storylines.

  18. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    Its obvious fromlistening to this clip that in NO way is he talking about the writers in any sense. this twatwaffle interviewer asked him a question on where the CHARACTER was going to go and he replied as such, and if you listen to the clip he talks about acting and directing himself so obviously he’s gonna have his own opinion but mostly he seems like he’s talking as if this character was real then he wouldn’t be in this situation and it being remedied through the shows story a total change in writing style…go burn in a chemical fire Mr.fred topel.

  19. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    What drug are you on, He clearly says what was written last year was unbelievable and he wants that to change next season and he was the writer he would change it. I love the show just the way it is and this is not the 1st time Charlie has blasted the writing for SOA. It is at least the 2nd time in a year

  20. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    I can understand why the writer of the show would feel upset after hearing about these comments.
    However, Charlie doesn’t sound angry, or rushed, or coerced, or cornered. I don’t know why he chose this moment to say what he said. But, people think what they think.

    They can be as nice as pie. They can be wonderful coworkers. They can be wonderful actors and wonderful humans. But they still have their own thoughts. No one really knows what someone else really thinks. And, there will be hell to pay for this.

    Everyone loves Katey. I know I do.
    I screamed, literally screamed and roared and applauded when she won.
    I’ve never done that for any actor in any category in any award show, ever. I just so thought she deserved it. Her scenes; when she went through the whole rape ordeal, were brilliant. And I never thought someone would be rewarded, no matter how deserving, for a part on this show.

    I love her strength, as a mother. But, let’s face it, she is also a little bit crazy. She’s all about family. But, it seems she may have had a hand in killing her son’s father. And, she all but insisted that he get his hands bloody. She wanted him to be a murderer; for the club, that is.

    She’s a complicated, wonderfully, rich, sexy character. Her husband has written her a beautiful role that worships her sexuality, and power, and vulnerability, and strength.

    From the moment I saw the scar line, on her chest, during the opening scenes, cut to make her look sexy..and hot, no matter what, I loved this role. And Kate gives it every, single thing she has. And, it shows. Hence: the reward. So, amen for that.

    Apparently those aren’t the parts that bother Charlie. He does play Jax after all. He also probably has his own thoughts about how one should deal with a Mother. I just wish everyone would calm down.
    I don’t know anything about the writer of this article. But, if he’s on the up and up, I
    really can’t blame the writer of the article for catching Charlie, and getting such an interesting/albeit, controversial, response to a relatively normal question:
    Where does he see/think his character needs to go..in season four.

    Who could have predicted he would say what he did?

    Nevertheless, I’m sure Charlie loves everyone on the show. I’m sure he loves Mr. Sutter and his wife, and never meant to maybe be so candid.
    Maybe it was a fleeting thought.

    What ever it was, it didn’t seem to come from a place of anger or hatred.
    So. I hope everyone just takes a breath.

    I love Sons of Anarchy, but I wouldn’t mind a little less death..

  21. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    Lets hear the whole interview unedited…

  22. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    So what if he said that Kurt and Charlie have both said this reporter baited him and in reply to the audio it was said why do you think they started it after the question was read. It really does not matter anyway because fans of the show no it is a great show and the writing is amazing and that Charlie is also amazing at playing Jax. I also highly doubt that there is an actor or actress out there that did not one point or another wish they could change something that the writers did so who cares. Kurt Sutter is brilliant and I will continue to watch and a piece of trash article like this wont change that.

  23. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    Lets hear the whole interview unedited then!! ya I thought not

  24. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    What a pile of crap. Ugh I hate reporters like you that can’t write a decent post so you have twist things. Scum.

  25. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    the sound bite seems edited. did you edit the sound bite to prove your point Mr. Topel?

  26. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    looks to me like mr fred topel is going to be looking for a job in the near future. maybe he should go back to school and learn how to be a real journalist.

  27. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    Pfft. Who uses Blogspot these days?

  28. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    Just post the whole, unedited interview. End of argument. Your choosing not to immediately do so makes you look like a slime ball. If it’s as you say it is, then take 2 minutes to upload the intact file to clear your name.

    Funny that you’re reticent to do so…

  29. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    And what about what the interviewer said to get that kind of an answer from him, hm? Are your baited questions leading up to his clearly annoyed answer there? Yeah, didn’t think so.

  30. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    I listened to the audio and yes it was Charlie’s voice. But I did not hear the whole interview and sound bites are just that. I don’t really know what all he had to say. ‘Bites’ out of an interview can definitely be taken in the direction the interviewer wants them to be taken. Be careful of any sound bite you hear, can come back and bite you in the ass.

  31. February 10, 2011 9:51 am

    Nick C

    What conversation occurred between your last exchange about The Ledge and your question about Jax and SOA? I imagine you and Charlie discussed Jax/SOA before your published question about Jax’s character in Season 4, so it’d be great if you could post the audio leading up to the actual question. Just to give us context.

  32. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    you suck you can’t ever make this show seem bad or terrible so quit trying!

  33. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    How does it feel to be wrong morons? Charlie said that and he’s right. Kurt needs to stop writing the show for his wife’s benefit.

  34. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    How does it feel to be wrong morons? Charlie said that and he’s right. Kurt needs to stop writing the show for his wife’s benefit.

  35. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    This is why celebrities don’t do interviews. Thanks for chopping up and making one of my favorite actors and shows look like a douche! Kurt Sutter is tha man and thanks Dropped_71 chevy for posting it.

  36. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    This is why celebrities don’t do interviews. Thanks for chopping up and making one of my favorite actors and shows look like a douche! Kurt Sutter is tha man and thanks Dropped_71 chevy for posting it.

  37. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    Wow, nowhere did Jax define that he didn’t like the writing of the show. He was just stating where he believed they would take because if you watched the show u douchebag wanna be reporter you would see that Jax was evolving away from his mother’s control. He was becoming his own man. Thats why I hate these stupid-ass bloggers who think they are reporters. Your not, epic fail. so Fred Topel in other words….YOU’RE A DUMBASS!

  38. February 10, 2011 9:51 am


    charlie lovely

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